Beliefs, Religion and Reason – A perspective of Hindu Atheist

February 25, 2009

Belief

Filed under: beliefs — Aniket @ 8:53 pm
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“So you say you believe in Science?”
“Yes.”
“Do you trust Science?”
“Yes.”
“Do you have faith in Science?”
“Yes.”
“Do you have *belief* in Science?”
“Yes.”
“.. and I have belief in religion, faith in God. What’s the difference? We are same.”
“Umm …”
“So is there any difference?”
“Yes.”
“What difference? I think both of us have blind faith in something.”
“I believe in the process of Science – a well laid out process of research, inquiry, theory and evidence. Science debates the ideas, different viewpoints are considered, research reports are peer reviewed. Still science makes mistakes and science corrects itself. It is a continuous process of self -improvement. Science evolves.”
“But *you* do not test those theories, *you* do not verify evidence. You faith is just as blind as mine, isn’t it?”
“No. Even though I haven’t verified the evidence of each and every scientific theory, I know someone has. I also know if I want to I can see the evidence myself, and based on my capacity to understand it I can verify each and every claim the theory makes. Can you say the same thing about religion? When religion has produced any evidence for any of its claims? When religion has discarded any of its old theories in light of new reality? How the faith in religion is same as faith in science? How? Why?”
” … ”
“We both believe in something, but that’s not just the same. It is exactly opposite.”

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5 Comments »

  1. “Can you say the same thing about religion?” Please read the later writings of Albert Einstein – he was a great scientist, as per me.

    Comment by J P Joshi — March 24, 2009 @ 11:21 am | Reply

  2. “No. Even though I haven’t verified the evidence of each and every scientific theory, I know someone has. ”
    So, you basically trust that someone’s opinion – blindly!

    ” I also know if I want to I can see the evidence myself, and based on my capacity to understand it I can verify each and every claim the theory makes.”
    How many have you done? How much have you understood? In today’s science also, there are lot of politics happening and not many (maybe none) of the original research papers are published to show the truth. They are published to attract more funds.

    “Can you say the same thing about religion?”
    Yes. I can. There are religious scripts available for any religion. I am a Hindu basically and I know that for Hindus, we have Vedas and other books. The problem is, none of the Hindus today are bothered to learn the language Sanksrit and try to read those scripts on their own. Why cant you just learn it and try to first know what is actually said on your own. Dont try to read other’s commentaries. It has their opinion mixed in it. Try reading the original scripts on your own.
    We dont know what we have and we have never understood the importance of that. That is why some American is able to patent for ‘turmeric’ and we just keep watching it!

    ” When religion has produced any evidence for any of its claims? ”
    Read them on your own to find truth. Of course, those materials are not available that easily. And I assume even you cant get those research papers that easily. Some strain is required to know the truth.

    “When religion has discarded any of its old theories in light of new reality?”
    Religion is an already evolved concept. So, I think this may not be possible.

    “How the faith in religion is same as faith in science? How? Why?””
    Yes. It is same. Because, the believer in most cases actually does not know the ‘facts’ or ‘truth’. One believes in fellow human being’s brain. Another believes in unknown unseen ‘power’. But they just believe. And both kinda people exists. They live on the same Earth. Apparently with not much differences in their lifestyle. The “belief” itself makes them happy. Not the “thing” which they believe.

    Comment by Arthy Vijayaraghavan — June 2, 2009 @ 2:39 am | Reply

  3. […] – Post from The Hindu Atheist 2 06 2009 I read this post about Belief in the blog “Beliefs, Religion and Reason – A perspective of Hindu Atheist” […]

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  4. Aniket,

    I think you’ll really like a blog I follow given in my ‘I recommend’ list–‘Atheism: proving the negative’.

    TC.

    Comment by panchalkc — June 3, 2009 @ 2:29 pm | Reply

  5. I think what you’re trying to say is that you believe in things that are falsifiable, and that’s different. They can be proven one way or the other, even if it hasn’t been done, or the evidence hasn’t been reviewed by the individual. Most religious claims (aside from some historical ones) are completely unfalsifiable.

    People who have faith in science have faith in the system, but that’s not a religious faith, just as I have faith that raw meat purchased at Whole Foods will be inspected and clean, but I will not be running any tests myself. Though it’s a belief and faith, it’s clearly not the same as a religious belief.

    In the end though, the label of religion is just based on a consensus of how the word will be used. Labeling something as a religion doesn’t change the merits of those beliefs.

    Comment by pissedandtart — December 7, 2009 @ 4:49 pm | Reply


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